|SOME NOTES ON MEDIEVAL ENGLISH GENEALOGY|
Volume 10, Appendix G, page 92:
GILBERT THE MARSHAL [d. in or before 1130] was the first known holder of the office.
... Gilbert may have been son or grandson of otherwise unknown Robert, who in 1086 held Cheddar, Somerset, under Roger de Courseulles (Domesday Book, vol. i, f. 94; cf. note "h" infra). Robert the Marshal, who in 1086 held Lavington, Wilts, has been suggested as the possible progenitor of the family (Davis, op. cit., pp. xxvi-xxvii); but this is unlikely, as in 1166 Lavington was held by Piers de la Mare (Red Book, p. 246).
Note h (continued on page 93):
... He left at least 2 sons, John abovenamed and William Giffard, who was presented to the church of Cheddar Hole, Somerset, and was admitted by Godfrey, Bishop of Bath (1123-35) ... Presumably William was called "Giffard" as a nickname - the chubby-cheeked (cf. Planché, Conqueror and his Companions, vol. i, pp. 161-62).
John P. Ravilious, in January 2003, pointed out a suggestion by N. E. Stacy that Gilbert the Marshal was identical with one Gilbert "Gibard", a Domesday subtenant in Winterbourne Monkton (where the younger John the Marshal was apparently his successor in 1173) [citing English Historical Review, February 1999]. This identification is accepted by K. S. B. Keats-Rohan [Domesday Descendants, p. 1029], although it does seem rather unlikely that the father of John the Marshal could have been a Domesday tenant. But in any case the earlier presence of Gilbert "Gibard" does suggest that Giffard was the family name rather than a personal nickname.
[This problem was also discussed by Mark Harry.
Item last updated: 2 March 2003.]